This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And I sat and prayed. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Because I believe in the church. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. I was at work. And when I look back at it, thats what I think. Visconti wins the Internet! Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Its so interesting. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attention . Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. No, it wasnt edited. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Hi. He was in the many meetings leading up to McDonalds termination. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Julie. I knew what the topic was. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. And what happened and all the backroom meetings, private conversations and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? I remember as a young pastor first hearing about James at a 2002 Moody Pastors Conference and reading his well written book on hermeneutics with an apologetic leaning and being blessed from his book. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. And they started reading scripture about the qualifications of the elders. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. It was a large elder board. But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. He knows! What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. And the things that were done to them after they left. But he starts arguing process. Id read through everything and all the letters. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. I think of a few things Julie. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. And it was just a deep sadness, deep sadness. Judson University is shaping lives that shape the world. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. The elder board is still in the dark. Am I right? Hi. Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. 2011 NIV. And then out of the blue, I get slapped with a lawsuit from James McDonald before I published anything. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. And I got the text. Jennifer I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . If you read his letter, he was going to publish his letter. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. And Im just trying to smear him. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. So that we could live in freedom. And I said, I understand that. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . . He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. 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There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. And they were praying in earnest this entire time. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. Great! While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. Hes asking for money. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. Thankfully, I had headphones on. Why did you think it was important to own not just who James McDonald was, and not just point the finger at him. Not all the elders had physical copies of the letters at that point. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. I dont know how many people had heard of it. And this is when everything really started happening. Well, youre welcome. Theres no joy in doing this. 1) Julie Roys. But it was dark. Yeah. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. It was the elders failure. 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The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. He should sell cars or computers. And I did it. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. But that is my hope. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. He has always been a total its all about me. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. Its loving to give medicine to a sick patient, and its loving to speak the truth to a deceived person.. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. And its to warn people, right? You could tell where it was headed probably. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. And I want to help people lead the church well. How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? @jamesmacdonald. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. How much do you make? That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. Both are true. I think there was a group in the in the room that would have let him have the microphone that weekend. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. I know a lot of people look at this. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? Good to be here. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. It was demonic. What what were you thinking? We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. You can review it. These were people bringing charges against an elder. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. 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The Roys Report has over 78 articles dedicated to MacDonald and/or HBC, many of which were written by Roys. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. Can you say what was in that letter? I believe the board was deceived by Satan. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Its come to this. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. Pastor James MacDonald. They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. Ive listened to the entire recording. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. And I checked my voicemail. year. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. This wasnt anything else. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. The devil is at work. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. I acknowledge my sin to you. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . The marriage relationship has died. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. But this is a story that just is not going away. Again, Dan was one of the elders who confronted James back in 2012, and then got excommunicated from Harvest. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. So I mean, again, this was round. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. Great! . I certainly am no Bible scholar. Still. We got to pray. And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. So were in the meeting. How can a husband love his wife as Christ loved the church when he is emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually abusive? Theres 30 men in the room. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? It does. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. And so I felt relief. And there is one thing we know about Satan. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? . And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. And her being in my house and literally shaking as shes recounting. The senior pastor at my church moved into town in 2014, and bought a home in proximity to the church for $260,000. Why is that? Thats a Tuesday night. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. James MacDonald. . And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. Very loyal to James McDonald. No One Knows. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? It was a four hour meeting. The Asbury Revival Is Over. And I know its cost you personally. And I stopped my car. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. They should go to the reconciliation team. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. Come out of her, my people. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. The Roys Report reached out to MacDonald with questions about the email, which he would not answer on the record. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. He scared me in bible college I wanted nothing to do with him. Im Julie Roys. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. And Dan said it was just so unnerving. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. Any update on the James MacDonald vs Harvest debacle? Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. On that Haiti trip. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. She said a survey of 20,000 women for her book, The Great Sex Rescue, found that when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . 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