I have no doubt you and I would agree on virtually everything, given the opportunity to talk at length. That says more than anything you or I can say. Please be specific. He made them all go outside. We dont need the bad with the good. The story of Elevation since then is one of attention-grabbing sermon series and ever-rising attendance numbers. The commenting system only goes so deep, then you cant add another level of replies. how can God be three persons and yet one?"' While you (and I, at times) focus only on salvation, Jesus did not. These men tend to teach extra biblical or unbiblical thoughts as truth. I dont want to write about false teachers, my friend. Jesus sacrifice paid for us to be redeemed from them all. Joyce Meyer, greatest Bible teacher alive today . No, that is most definitely NOT what Jesus said. The truth is that oneness doctrine cant explain why Jesus prayed to the Father, was sent by the Father, went back to the Father, and so on. Not saying this is same problem furtick has, but Donald, we can also be incorrect at times while presenting the Gospel, as you have done writing Ephesians 2:8 in reverse. Your dissatisfaction with church as usual is a GOOD thing. You shared, we see that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are not the same as each other. I know that his command leads to eternal life. We are made in Gods image, but as God said there is no one like Him. No, we dont throw out true things but we do throw out false teachers. In a Facebook post from 2021, Furtick wrote this: Following Jesus doesnt change you into something else, it reveals who youve been all along. If there are disputable matters, there are indisputable matters. As you say and as Ive written here false teachers also teach many true things. Im not attacking Furtick. Once your father expresses that modalism is false, and tells you what you should say to a friend who believes in modalism, you can say it back to him. Will you bring Matthew Henry into this category too? Dont trust me. In other words, once we understand the term God, even within the phrase there is ONLY one God, means a single entity comprised of three persons, the simplest aspect of the Trinity isnt so difficult. Pastor Steven Furtick is the founder and lead pastor of Elevation Church based in Charlotte, NC. Right, Jesus did miracles to show he was God the Son, as in, When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. These were not unbelievers, but believed and even asked for Jesus to come heal Lazarus. Needs a dose of 1 Peter 5:5, as we all must! Instead he was internal He said its good that Im ghosting you. This belief talks about the nature of God. The power that works in us is Gods power, not ours and its not ours to command, its His. If theyre not saved, we should pray for their salvation. That attitude is the prerequisite for vs 15, Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Relying on the Lord Jesus this way ensures us that He will correct us if we begin to go off on a tangent. Being made in Gods image does not mean that we share all of His attributes. Remember let us make man in our image? God needed someone to show the world what He looks like, or else He would have just been a concept. And yes, its true that many who follow false teachers ARE saved there. While much of what Furtick teaches is true, too much of it is not and the things he gets wrong are big things: the character of God, His ability to do things, our ability to thwart Him, and so on. If our lack of faith prevented Him from acting, then nobody could be saved ever. Thanks. Part of the problem is that we humans are too often lazy, impulsive, greedy, self-absorbed, and pleasure-seeking. Touching a dead body a common occurrence caused one to be ritually impure, and there are instructions about that. >> So no, modalism is not a false doctrine. View More Sermons. Is a biblical false teacher one that denies the deity of Christ, one that denies His redemptive plan of salvation. Who knows? For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. First, youre taking 1 Corinthians 14:33 completely out of context. The screenshot below is from page 4 of Elevation Churchs helpful Spontaneous Baptism How To Guide. If Steven Furtick teaches things that contradict the Bible, were supposed to call him out on it. If they disobeyed, He would curse them. Furtick preaches live at some; he's on video at others. What can we say about these people? If the decision were mine, I would not allow a church music ministry to use songs by false teachers whether Jehovahs Witnesses, Elevation, Hillsong, or Bethel. Is the Lords arm too short? Sure, Furtick has said some strange things, and You should speak up against such, but to include the entire faith teachings is another thing. Learn a little Greek. She didnt do anything wrong but there were consequences for the people she touched. Many years later, the Son became a human. In John 16:7 Jesus said, It is for your good that I am going away. You may also want to check out a list of Bible Teachers I Can Recommend. If you agree, we have a LOT of work to do. These limits are self-imposed, of course and they are chosen to produce the best outcome. Thanks. Ill recap, for clarity: Steven Furtick said that the power of God was in Jesus, and that He WANTED to do miracles, but Jesus could not BECAUSE the power of God was trapped in their unbelief. This makes the morality of God relative to each situation, rather than a universal truth. He did not change forms and become spirit. The term family is singular. Because of the cares of the world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things. Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Im not making a mountain out of a molehill here, Thomas. Im eager to improve. The Word of God also describes Jesus in these ways: >> Jesus Himself said that HE and the Father would indwell us. God is love, but we are not. Your a leader but you are just the same as I am you are not more important your just held accountable because you are reaching more people do not twist the word to deceive people . And Jesus said unto him, Go your way; your faith has made you whole. Even those who receive the gospel with joy may fall away. Paul wanted to be healed, but lacked sufficient faith. "It's where the pastor gets his game face on.". As founder and lead pastor, he has helped grow the multi-site Elevation Church. Instead, its modalism: the unbiblical idea that God is ONE person that appears to us in different modes, or manifestations. I just want the truth which I believe I can only find through prayer, study and revelation. How many have only joined a church , gotten baptized, confirmed without being convicted. He noted that a prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Verse 58 says this: And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith. So you dont believe that God is a molecular structure. The Father was still in Heaven, and the Holy Spirit was still doing His thing. Its the established position of Scripture and the witness of millions of faithful Christians throughout history: God CAN heal, but He might not and we dont have the power to override His decisions. Godly people would never drink alcohol. The problem is that hes not preaching the gospel. Be like a Berean and test everything including what I say here with Scripture. Hi there! In the world of the Word of Faith movement, God CANNOT do ANYTHING on earth without us giving Him permission. Is that the language of the kingdom? If the gospel matters, then teaching it as it was handed down matters. The home was valued at $1.78 million. There were plenty of people that Jesus never healed. Built on a burial ground, Norfolks Basilica of St. Mary houses over 100 years of Black history. The very idea of salvation contradicts that notion! The idea that if there is evidence of Gods blessing this is proof of his approval. Furtick, Steven (2012). Yes, I have the final word on what gets published, but that only applies when people are being unduly combative or promoting things I cant promote. Any way, right Calvin, unbelief caused Him not to display his power. I wish you well, and hope that you will reach out if I can help you in any way. Right, I also hope youll take all of this in the spirit in which it was written, as truly iron does sharpen iron, as our Great brother Paul said, for we know in part. Salvation by faith through grace ? Now, one could take that too far. Besides: its easy to ask a question like, What does the Bible say about baptism, but the answer isnt so brief. The Father is spirit. Third: what is this scroll? Finally, the idea that God fills all in all isnt simply unbiblical. In 1 Timothy 5, Paul said to rebuke false teachers publicly, so that the rest may stand in fear. He specifically called out false teachers by name, too: Demas, Phygelus, Hermongenes, Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus. Matthew 24 gives us more: But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. The Spirit of God is the BREATH/Wind of God and the Son is the WORD of God. Heres my position: Steven Furtick teaches modalism. Healing comes not from the outside in, it comes from the inside out. First, God is not subject to any law. Thanks for letting me know. I believe he believes what hes saying. Word of Faith teachers typically demote God and limit Him in ways that dont match Scripture. I could list other verses that show the Holy Spirit is also distinct from the Father and Son, of course. Do you believe that false teachers exist? I plan to study it thoroughly with my husband. He then proceeded to North Greenville University and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in communications. Theres some really helpful information in there. Someone gave me a good example that Ill share with you: if the Jehovahs Witnesses started producing really good music that your church liked to sing, would you be okay with that? He took only the childs father and mother and the disciples Mark 5:39,40, showing doubt hinders, faith encourages favorable out comes. At a recent service, Elevation staffers distributed black rubbery rings to remind the wearers to invite friends. Even a single example is enough. Be transformed into an advocate for truth to protect yourself and your loved ones from the wolves that the Scriptures talk about. I can certainly use the discussion to teach people how to handle Scripture properly, how the teachings of the Word of Faith movement come directly from New Thought, and how they distort the biblical record about God and man. As for, Do you, in any sense, have power over God? Paul said he was not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: Notice the connection between Power and faith He and his wife have three children. Moses said to God, Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you, and they ask me, What is his name?Then what shall I tell them?, God said to Moses, I am who I am. Do you agree with him that God broke the law for love, or do you think thats at least an inartful attempt to explain something true? Youve already agreed that God is not limited by a persons lack of faith. This is pretty basic, and every Word of Faith teacher including Steven Furtick does it. I have yet to see Furtick really talk about sin and repentance. Furtick is saying that God stopped being the Father and became a man (Jesus). Humans are not a trinity. Steven was born on February 19, 1980, in Moncks Corner, South Carolina, United States of America. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ,the new creationhas come:The old has gone, the new is here! In any other context, I have no doubt you would share my concern: In the beginning, Marduk created the heavens and the earth. On the question of Revelation 22:18-19 I would ask you to consider a few questions. Thanks for visiting GodWords! Those are all from a single passage in John 5. You agree that Christians do not have power over God. Furtick is the proud son of Larry Stevens Furtick (father) and Faith Furtick (mother). People shouldnt have to search the web to find out whether anyone claiming the name of Jesus is trustworthy but they do. Thanks. Steven Furtick Jr. is an American Baptist evangelical Christian pastor and songwriter of Elevation Worship. Crash The Chatterbox: Hearing Gods Voice Above All Others. In case anyone wonders whether Furtick misspoke, theres more. It confirmed everything that I have seen and heard from Steven Furtick. I like Narcigesis way more! My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working. By late 2004, Furtick was leading a musical worship team at Christ Covenant, a Baptist church in Shelby. May God save his soul if he doesnt know Christ and may God give His children eyes to see and ears to hear. Well, we know everything is made up with molecules (atoms with protons and neutrons), but to say God is a molecular structure does not fit, as the word does say clearly; all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist (all things hold together, in many translations), Colossians 1: 16. THAT is the purpose of this article: to help people understand that Steven Furtick is not a trustworthy teacher of Scripture. Even Jesus cannot override your unbelief. They interact with one another because they are distinct from one another, as you and I are. When we elevate people who lead others astray whether accidentally or by false teaching we risk the lives of our friends and family, both now and into eternity. If he really is biblically trinitarian, he should know better than to explain anything about the trinity that could be misconstrued as Sabellianism. I have questions, and I hope you can take a deep breath and answer them clearly. Im not a follower of Furtick, and in no sense do I endorse him or his ministry. It simply explains the nature of ritual purity. Thanks for your comment. You say Paul was a special case. I hope youre doing great! "They really are the major show in town for (those) 20 to 32," the Rev. His takeaway his summation for the sermon was the the people in Nazareth thought too little of themselves. Also, seeds sown among thorns often prove unfruitful. Sure, Ballard Christian. Thank you for writing this. I especially resonated with your statement that many false teachers today change the focus of the gospel from God to humanity. I agree with you on Steven Furtick and have warned several friends about him. When a man spends this much time in attempt to rip down another mans character down. He changed its meaning to make a point that doesnt appear in the text or in any text. What do you do when confronted with false teachers? Steven Furtick is a very popular speaker. 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