However, because of Marbles premature manufacturing of the knife before it was awarded a government contract, the rest of the world gained the privilege to own this knife. HiI'm new to the site and am trying to identify a knife my daughter found yesterday. I had the Colonial and Geneva knives flipped the wrong way, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The tang stamp on this knife is post Government contract era. Your guidelines seem to contradict themselves:The knife has a thin, pinned pommelWW2 knife pommels are peened on the knife, not pinnedWhich is it: they are pinned or they are not?Please let me know, than you. I'll leave it at this, there is some conjecture out there on what these knives might or might not be. Powered by Invision Community, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY. As with many uses of military equipment, service members use considerable ingenuity in the field when employing their equipment and therefore, the use of the holes in the blade guard for cordage lashing points may have been a field expedient use of the knife rather than as an intentionally designed purpose. quick. After more than two decades (1897) in this business, importation costs for the knives were getting higher and wiping out Adolphs profits. The Newer one is by Camillus the older one I got given to by my uncle, who got it from someone in Vietnam. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. I was in Boy Scouts. I have the knife and sheath, but not the sharpener. Note the scabbards with and without sheet selected. Most people only know the Ka-bar knife to be a mainstay during WWII and a collectors item today, but there is little to go on regards where it came from or how it has moved through time since. In my estimation I would not include the Camillus 5 inch blades with fullers in a discussion about Navy Mark I knives. Okay, maybe not fakes. To put things in context, it is estimated that there have been, at least, 200 different Ka-bar knife stamps in use since the late 1890s. You ought to take part in a contest for one of the best sites on the net. However, this was not the end of the aging Air Force Survival Knife. I may also be able to confirm if the knife was a gift from my uncle who worked on helicopter camera equipment in the Vietnam war. With areas like Germany, Italy, China, and the rest of the world getting the praises for coming up with truly timeless knives, the USA takes the glory for this one. This tang stamp was used by Camillus from 1946 to 1950. A Kent marked with Indian Trail and large brass rivets, J-9 marked is another Kent prototype with domed steel One of the tasks that this knife was designed to accomplish was helping pilots and aircrews egress their downed aircraft or to help first responders extract them from their downed aircraft. Did Camillus Make Other Brands Knives on Contract? They all now have similar appearances, a conformity if you will. that when Camillus got the bid for the Jet Pilot Knife Marbles made a deal Speechless Q31: An almost twin to item number two above but this one This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. Ka-bar knives are not made like they used to be anymore. Any review of World War II military fixed blades must include several examples of Western knives. The sheath welt shall be 3/8-inch-thick and 2 inches in length. It does, however, have a small Japan stamped in the blade at the hilt. The latest dated pommel stamped Camillus 5733 is 3-1985. Jan / meng aerospace engineering / flavoring homemade yogurt with jello . Navy didn't agree. the M3 and the M4 reproductions. unknown variant like the Marbles above. Made for Sears & Roebucks. Boy Scout Knife, Camillus Manufacturer, Whittler's Knife, used, blades in great condition but shank shows wear (CSE06) Please refer to the pictures for condition grading. Because of this, an exact dating system is impossible. Above we feature the Camillus USMC reproduction. This initial fabrication met the basic outlined requirements what the Navy wanted, with the approval of the drawing, we then begin to see the application of the applied property marks which are simply USN on the ricasso. As the development and testing process began to take shape, updates to the original specification documents were published. The knife was originally designed in 1957 as a joint issue between the Navy Weapons Bureau and the Marbles Arms Company. Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. But there are clever reproductions that can fool you into thinking its the real thing. But you have an injury to your arm. If you happen to have, Read More How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice)Continue, If you have spent some time here before, then we have dated some pretty amazing knives together. I cant glean a date of manufacture from the stamp. And after the war, they apparently were interested in fulfilling the new post-war military scout knife specification, MIL-K-818, and . If you are interested in the Camillus M4 Engineers. apart. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. Later, when we received individual survival and flotation gear, the knife scabbard was sometimes sewn into the pocket where a .38 special was stored during Vietnam days on the survival vest. At the end of the war, the decision to ramp up capacity paid off as Camillus could now make its knives and still churn others out under contract. together at the same time. Heres a link to Frank Trzaska's Note on the subject. Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. You are using an out of date browser. Today, we keep finding fewer and fewer people who fought in WWII around. The Leather washers may have been replaced with the black ones. As such, this knife was not intended as a frontiersman or bushcraft knife, per se. That stamp is different than the one used earlier. The stamping was kind of inconsistent from my research. the knife is a Camillus model number 5733. silver. Moreover, the requirement for having a standard survival knife for pilots and aircrews across the DoD was due to economic considerations and budgeting constraints at the time which fostered standardization across the military services. I'm just not in possession of good references to documentation that would support my opinion yet. The pommel screw in the middle looks to be steel, but nut is brass. I will highly recommend this site! By contrast, the current DoD procurement process is much more refined and regulated. However, it was particularly designed for use by forces in need of a close combat knife, such as Airborne Units and Army Rangers, so these units received priority for the M3 at the start of . The one on the left there is a bevel at the top of the grip. We see this one constantly on sale as a "Vietnam Otherwise, have someone who does. It was enlightening to discover that there is very little information available on the background and origins of this knife. In the end, it proved to be a logistical nightmare, however, Robeson did make the switch. This is the guard-marked type with a "plain" unmarked blade. Co., Olean N.Y.Straight lineNil1897 1909Union Cut. Your email address will not be published. Find out more below. can be found quite regularly at just about any gun or knife show. Above that it simply says "Army Air Forces". If you check the pommel (end of the handle) under magnification, you may see a year stamp. We were allowed to keep them when dicharged. Hoping you guys can help. Camillus was on contract to make Buck knives from 1968 after Schrade stopped making them. knife. Camillus Keto Folding Knife $29.99 2 Reviews Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Choff Folding Knife Black $19.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus LK6 Folding Knife $22.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Wedge Folding Knife $19.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Carbide Edge Folding Knife $36.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Heater II Neck Knife Before this requirement, knives of several types were procured by the individual branches of the military and dispensed to their members. Not all Ka-bar knives will have a serial number, but checking this fine detail would make sense where possible. Thanks for the feedback. Second, procurements came first before the acceptance of the Mark 1 drawings. Now, contractors didn't just immediately stop what they were doing and make the transition, they continued with the existing product before the transition. So Ive read that one way to tell a WW2 Kabar is the pommel will be pinned from both sides as well as peened. Hi. Interesting information. What is the white dot on the handle? It will not be long before you are won over by the versatility and practicality of the Air Force Survival Knife. by Colonel666 Wed May 29, 2013 10:48 pm, Post These items I would say its one of the best knives ever! Is this unusual? By the close of 1943, a satisfactory method was applied. Q30: WW II Prototype made for the 6 inch Hunting knife Thanks for sharing. I have three of these babies from my flying days with the U. S. Navy. You can jump to the following sections if youre in a hurry, but I would advise that you dont skip this part. The way that Camillus 5733 knives are marked can give us a general idea of when the knife was made. There was a spin off copy cat comp. The rarest USMC knife in While researching this knife I discovered that Camillus, the same manufacturer as the iconic Kabar fighting knife, was the main producer of these knives. Over the decades, this document has been updated. Adolph Kastor, the founder of the Camillus cutlery company, came to the U.S.A at the age of 14. This design was accepted, and the military specifications documents were updated to reflect Marbles concept in MIL-K-8662A (04 November 1957). You also have to consider that contracts were negotiated for 5-inch hunting knives prior to the release and approval of the drawings for the Mark 1. Hi Bruce: Sears Roebucks in 9/26/1941. Ken Spielvogel - The "Accumulator" of knives- "The Talking Knives". No date or manufacturer is stamped anywhere. (Author's note: Camillus had developed the Mark II during World War II, and made more Mark II's than anyone else, though the Marines still called the Camillus-designed Mark II knife "the Ka-Bar.") The New-and-Improved Camillus M3 In the 1980s, the U.S. Armed Forces discussed improving the M3. US Military utility multi tool knife, no lanyard. The iconic design features of the knife, that have characterized its look, have remained unchanged since its inception. Very creative, one of the nicer sites I have seen today. Camillus Cuda Bolt Spring Assisted Knife Gray (3.625" Black) CM19080 MSRP: $50.99 Our Price: $43.95 Add to Cart Camillus Erupt Spring Assisted Knife Black GRN (2.5" Black) Our Price: $33.95 Add to Cart Camillus HEAT Spring Assisted Knife Black GFN (3.5" Black) CM19167 Our Price: $55.95 Add to Cart 1 2 3 Items 1 - 12 of 27 Show per page Sort By Camillus Bombat 6" Pocket Knife #19484 $17.99 Thank you for the history. Price $15,000.00, #5665 L66: This is the prototype for the WW II Army Air A few members here have posted examples of that knife with the typical Camillus Mark 1 hilt and the fullered blade normally associated with the 5 inch pilots knife, but yes they don't show up too often. There are many variables to take into consideration and a general genealogy of dating can be made with Mark 1 knives. If you have also been stuck on how to date a Kabar knife properly before you landed on this piece, I believe you must have all the information you need right now. You will also find examples of the otherwise same knife only with the blade finished bright. Here are some ways to identify a fake Camillus knife: The tang stamps are all over the place; There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; The font is a bit off; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife) Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor Yes the Vietnam War lasted until 1975 but the majority of US combat Camillus 1996 Combination Folding Knife USN $24.99 1 bid $5.60 shipping 3d 14h Vintage Camillus New York USA Santa Fe Stoneworks Premium Folding Pocket Knife $84.99 Was: $99.99 or Best Offer SPONSORED Vintage 4 Blade CAMILLUS 1981 USA Military Survival Pocket Knife - SKU 1617 It is WW II era and dual tang marked and etched. I've heard arguments on both sides, but as of yet I'd be uncomfortable moving the positions beyond the level of opinion. Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Tom said that the Government contract was cancelled in 1984. These knives became popular with outdoorsman. Its width is 21.8mm (21.8mm) and thickness is 4.5mm (4.5mm). I have a Camillus USA 5 fixed blade knife that was issued to me between 1964-1965 as a flight crew member in Patrol Squadron 8, VP-8 Anti submarine warfare squadron. The TL-29 electrician's knife was originally an issue item manufactured by the Camillus Cutlery Company. The serrated spine on this knife is part of the functional requirements for this knife. 5684 S50: Dated 8/21/1945 this design uses the Mark 2 blade, It is also suspected that knife makers will begin to find ways to improve the knife and manufacture their versions of the knife similar to what knife companies are doing with other legacy knife designs. You are able to get the knife because it is dummy corded to you. WW2 CAMILLUS *Air Force* Folding Machete Survival Knife w/Guard $79.00 20 bids $12.50 shipping Ended USMC US M3 Case 1943 Fixed Blade Fighting Knife Stacked Leather Handle & Sheath $314.00 14 bids $15.49 shipping 3d 5h U.S. M-1 GARAND / HANDLE SCALES and PARTS ( See Discription ) $17.50 2 bids $13.17 shipping Ended The USMC solicited bids from several knife The sharpening stone shall be fabricated from silicon carbide, grain size 280, hardness P, vitrified bond. After vetting the information against the published government standards for this knife and the government procurement process, what emerged was a unique story of an iconic knife that has found its way from the military to the civilian outdoor world and into the hearts of many owners and users. by orvet Tue May 28, 2013 1:20 pm, Post room when the company was auctioned off. It would also be much easier to confirm additional details about the knives, not just who made them and when. Thanks. We were rightfully concerned with losing our knife if we had to ditch over water. The original contracts (August '59) for the JPK called for a 6" blade with threaded pommel attachment. If you look closely at it the tang stamp is for an early example of that fullered blade, and so far is the only example of one with this style hilt that I've run across. It was probably stashed there by some kid whose dad was a Navy pilot. But your saying the WW2 knives dont have pins at all?, just peened? These two knives are commonly identified as WW2 pilots knives. After all, that is what they practically do for a living. and steel domed rivets but with a different grind from above. Schrade Knife Identification (www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us) Schrade Knives (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) Victorinox. This is the #3 knife Camillus submitted for the test. The earliest Camillus factory experimental 6 inch Jet Pilot Both are Camillus but one has a 1" longer blade. If you dont find your stamp and logo from there, use the official stamp/ logo guide from the official Ka-bar website as seen below: There is a lot that you can tell about the Ka-bar knife from the markings on the blade. Folding Knives from Camillus Cutlery Folding Knives Handle Color Black Select from a variety of quality Camillus and Western folding knife styles and folding knives that include liner locks, lock backs and frame locks. Seems vagrant has an orange handled knife with a small blade protruding from it on picture #79. Both products contained a second active ingredient, salicylanilide. The grip will be made of leather in compliance with Federal Standard KK-L-165. storage. Knife #1 and #2 were never found in the factory collection years ago, this Curiously enough, my knife does not have the Camillus trademark name stamp anywhere on the knife or the sheath. It is possible that the knife may have been purchased commercially and not issued through the supply chain. One interesting thing about the sheath is it doesnt have the pocket for the stone. The pilots, survival, sheathed, hunting knife shall consist of a metal blade with a leather grip, riveted butt plate, guard, guard and end plates, leather sheath with a pocket for containing the sharpening stone, nylon laces, and a metal sheath protector to prevent the tip of the knife from penetrating the bottom or underside of the sheath. This was one they wanted to make but never did. the knife not a saw back. touched them in anyway, as you see them is how they were in the showroom. The tip of the sheath is pointed and the back part of leather extends beyond the front for two lanyard holes. The post-1962 knives were produced by the Camillus Cutlery Company and Milpar during the Vietnam Era. Its total length is 292mm (11 5/8 inches). With decades of experience under his belt, Adolph spearheaded the growth and expansion of the Camillus knife company into what we know it as today. I sent some pictures I have of mine, Major. Did your Camillus knife go to the war? Do you have any additional information on what the 6-89 is and how it fits in the history. I have several good photos of the knife which Id be happy to forward but there doesnt seem to be a way to send them to you on this site. I would classify them as USAAF knives. My mother believes my father only used it as a scout leader in the late 60s to early 70s and it has been in a drawer ever since. It is marked just U.S.N. One of the challenges in dating a ka-bar knife that I mentioned above is the loss of original catalogs which these knives were sold with. Here is the basic history of this knife. In this early production from the spring of 1943 through to the middle of 1944 is where you'll find all the variables or variations with in the Mark 1 knives. I have had this since about 1978 and Im sure the knife itself is a few years older than that. I have not I got my first one from an electricians mate on the CG Cutter I was serving aboard back in the 70s. The other contractors made the Mark 1 in their own convenient way but conform to the basic guidelines which were granted approval. the markings are all the same and in the same place as the originals. SKIP. Can't recall seeing. This military specification document would become the standard for further improvements and changes to the pilot survival knife throughout the years. By All of these make the recipe for a truly great knife that deserves our attention. Fortunately for us, Camillus changed their stamps enough to map each one to different periods. The second question that arises concerning some of the features of this knife is the purpose of the two holes in the blade guard. Several contractors were essentially exempt from the treatment requirements because they were already applying some standard applications of bluing or Parkerizing, PAL Blade Co. for example. Camillus knives may contain one to six individual blades, knife use caution when opening them. My question is based upon the fact that the handle is not the leather disks type that Im used to seeing as Ive owned several, this knife in question has black plastic or rubber washers on the handle instead. S-4007 hand marked on the blade, Guardless and serrated by glennbad Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:48 am, Post Maybe a high school classmate possibly but I dont know. Many of us have been exposed to the fixed blade knife known popularly as the Air Force Survival Knife. 5665 J86: Prototype dated 3/25/1942 made for the Army In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). I havent had the opportunity to measure it as its not in my possession and never was, I simply saw it. contracts. In New York City. A Short History of the U. S. 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Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com, AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods, Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days, Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum, Cattaraugus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) Collector's Forum, Robeson Cutlery Company Collector's Forum, Schatt & Morgan Knife Collector's Forum, Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums. Why? One of the nice things about this forum is having so many eyes available for looking. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. Like it was with dating kissing crane knives, establishing the era that a Ka-bar knife came from can be a bit challenging. camillus knife identification. Even if the Ontario Knife Company discontinues their production and the DoD phases them out of their inventories, the knife will be around for commercial purchase. The knife went through a couple of different vendors over its life cycle. Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. Unbelievable piece. Pilot Survival Knife MIL-K-8662(AER). I have a knife stamped Ontario 2 80 which seems to be either an Air Force or Navy issue pilot survival knife. By 1876, after his uncles company had to close shop due to poor sales figures, Adolph charted out a new path for himself. If you send me your email address I can send you photos. This is it. and took them with me when the auction was over. The serrated spine was designed to cut through the aluminum skin surrounding the airframes of Korean and Vietnam War-era aircraft. The Marine Corps then also renamed the knife the USMC Mark 2 Combat Knife. brass pins holding stagged bone over black plastic liners. of Tom Williams, Camillus factory historian, I have assembled the I have little knowledge on the Use of it in Vietnam, that said, I cant find much details. I have a one of the knives that came out of a survival kit. It may add to your history file. If the Marines had a Para knife There won't be any pommel markings on this one. Knives made by top companies were featured in catalogs that were either internally maintained or sent out to dealers and collectors. Bright blade (no property mark) initial production referred to as a 5-inch hunting knife, bright blade USN now referred to as the Mark 1, USN ricasso stamped with parked blade (corrosion resistant treatment compliance), late procurements with applied MARK 1 ricasso stampings. The knife was probably modified by a previous owner. December 15, 2017 in EDGED WEAPONS. I recently bought a new Ontario that has 3-11 on the pommel (March 2011 I reckon). For a knife that has been around for more than 120 years now, you also know that it would have changed hands a lot of times. It doesn't get much better then this one. In 1957, the Marble-Arms Corporation submitted to the U.S. government a design based on their Ideal Hunting Knife design. Charlie I happen to agree with your take here. 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